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nazirmz

Posted 30 April 2009 - 12:08 PM

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Any truth to the below? Or just hoax? Got it thru my work e-mail so I'm wondering if our lubrication sifu can give a piece of their mind on this.....


MINYAK SAJI

PERCAYAKAH anda bahawa minyak masak berasaskan minyak kelapa sawit boleh digunakan sebagai minyak pelincir untuk kenderaan anda?

Malahan sudah terdapat segelintir penduduk di Negeri Sembilan menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak pelincir atau minyak hitam untuk kereta mereka tanpa menghadapi sebarang masalah.

Pengurus Pemasaran Sekolah Golf Michael Ismail, Nik Safian Afzani Omar berkata, beliau telah menggunakan minyak masak yang dibeli pada harga RM2.50 sepaket untuk enjin kereta Kancilnya.

"Kancil saya menggunakan tiga liter minyak hitam. Jadi, saya tuang dua paket setengah minyak masak untuk menyamai kuantiti itu. Dahulu, kalau servis minyak hitam, saya berhabis sehingga RM130, tetapi sekarang kurang RM10," katanya.

Jika dahulu beliau menggunakan minyak hitam semi sentitik jenama Castrol, kini Nik Safian Afzani menggunakan 'minyak hitam' yang dibelinya dari sebuah pasar raya.

Menurutnya, selepas menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam, suhu enjinnya sangat rendah dan meter suhu tidak pernah lebih dari satu takuk.

Nik Safian berkata, ketika menghantar kereta ke sebuah bengkel kenderaan untuk ditukar penapis minyak, pekerja bengkel tersebut terkejut apabila mendapati keretanya menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam tetapi mengakui ini merupakan alternatif terbaik sebab harga minyak pelincir pada hari ini sudah naik.

Sementara itu, pencipta alat penjimat minyak kereta berasaskan gas hidrogen dan air, Hisham Abdullah, 43, turut menggunakan minyak masak sebagai minyak hitam untuk kereta Proton Iswaranya.

Beliau sudah menggunakan bahan itu setahun yang lepas dan mendapati tidak ada kesan negatif menimpa keretanya.

Bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat Jepun serta graduan dalam bidang ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari Universiti Arkansas , Amerika Syarikat itu berkata: "Minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik, tetapi kita tidak tahu mengenainya."

Mekanik kereta, Mohd Tajuddin Jalil pula, mula mengetahui mengenai rahsia minyak masak sebagai ganti minyak hitam kira-kira dua tahun lalu selepas bertemu dengan seorang pakar minyak dari luar negara.

Sejak itu, beliau menggunakan minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sebagai minyak hitam keretanya, malahan beliau mengenali 67 pengguna kereta di Negeri Sembilan yang menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta mereka.

"Hanya minyak masak berasaskan kelapa sawit sahaja boleh digunakan sebagai minyak hitam. Jangan pakai minyak masak berasaskan jagung, sayuran atau kacang kerana minyak ini pada suhu sejuk akan menjadi beku," katanya.

Katanya, harga minyak hitam keluaran pelbagai syarikat kini meningkat dengan sebotol empat liter minyak hitam semi sentitik kini berharga RM160 dan minyak sentitik sepenuhnya, mencecah RM200.

Bagaimanapun, beliau menasihatkan orang ramai supaya menukar gasket kereta mereka kepada jenama yang lebih baik sebelum menggunakan minyak masak sebagai pelincir enjin kereta.

Orang ramai juga boleh melayari laman web http://www.nordicgroup.us/oil.htm The300 Mile Facts untuk maklumat yang sama. - Bernama



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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:00 PM

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There's some discussion on this at LowYatNet, some claimed they've used it without problem. A guy from Batu Pahat even said his mechanic wasn't surprised at all to pour in palm oil for him during oil change, as quite a number of people have been using it.

The BP guy is using it on his Waja, he said response was better (probably due to the thin palm oil), and coolant temperature shows lower reading (he can't figure out the reason).
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:13 PM

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QUOTE (Esky @ Apr 30 2009, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's some discussion on this at LowYatNet, some claimed they've used it without problem. A guy from Batu Pahat even said his mechanic wasn't surprised at all to pour in palm oil for him during oil change, as quite a number of people have been using it.

The BP guy is using it on his Waja, he said response was better (probably due to the thin palm oil), and coolant temperature shows lower reading (he can't figure out the reason).


Cheap is cheap but personal opinion imagine the goreng pisang oil turn dark

Last year when the engine oil shoot up very high , some bad traders using recycle oil , KFC oil , used oil and Rubber processing oil to blend it and sold as original engine oil

I think this round the engine oil price is coming down better stick to Real engine oil




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Posted 30 April 2009 - 01:15 PM

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QUOTE (Esky @ Apr 30 2009, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's some discussion on this at LowYatNet, some claimed they've used it without problem. A guy from Batu Pahat even said his mechanic wasn't surprised at all to pour in palm oil for him during oil change, as quite a number of people have been using it.

The BP guy is using it on his Waja, he said response was better (probably due to the thin palm oil), and coolant temperature shows lower reading (he can't figure out the reason).

You mean the actual cooking oil??
But no detergent and additives for cleaning, anti foaming etc. etc.....

Last time there was a Palm oil base engine oil selling.... Marvel oil, but don't see them anymore....

What about Bio-Ray? Wonder if they are palm oil base also? smile_question.gif

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 02:39 PM

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Yeah, palm cooking oil. So, instead of Castrol, Mobil or Shell, they're talking about Saji, Seri Murni, Vesawit, pasar malam 1kg pack minyak masak, etc.! Apart from lubricity, it has nothing else like anti-oxidation, anti-sludge, soot suspension, detergency, acid-neutralisation, etc. Maybe can be mixed into motor oil to cut cost, but probably not good as a standalone oil, unless if u change very frequently.

Anyway, that guy has another engine ready for transplant, so he's not worried about spoiling the engine.

I was told Marvel palm-based engine oil was the one which caused lots of heavy sludge build-up in engines, forcing owners to have their engines stripped down for cleaning.
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Posted 30 April 2009 - 02:47 PM

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QUOTE (Esky @ Apr 30 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, palm cooking oil. So, instead of Castrol, Mobil or Shell, they're talking about Saji, Seri Murni, Vesawit, pasar malam 1kg pack minyak masak, etc.! Apart from lubricity, it has nothing else like anti-oxidation, anti-sludge, soot suspension, detergency, acid-neutralisation, etc. Maybe can be mixed into motor oil to cut cost, but probably not good as a standalone oil, unless if u change very frequently.

Anyway, that guy has another engine ready for transplant, so he's not worried about spoiling the engine.

I was told Marvel palm-based engine oil was the one which caused lots of heavy sludge build-up in engines, forcing owners to have their engines stripped down for cleaning.

So now if go for outing can just drain some out for cooking also.....muhahaha smile_big.gif smile_big.gif

Some already being used mix with diesel... bio diesel..... smile_thumbup.gif

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 05:40 PM

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QUOTE (Esky @ Apr 30 2009, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, palm cooking oil. So, instead of Castrol, Mobil or Shell, they're talking about Saji, Seri Murni, Vesawit, pasar malam 1kg pack minyak masak, etc.! Apart from lubricity, it has nothing else like anti-oxidation, anti-sludge, soot suspension, detergency, acid-neutralisation, etc. Maybe can be mixed into motor oil to cut cost, but probably not good as a standalone oil, unless if u change very frequently.

Anyway, that guy has another engine ready for transplant, so he's not worried about spoiling the engine.

I was told Marvel palm-based engine oil was the one which caused lots of heavy sludge build-up in engines, forcing owners to have their engines stripped down for cleaning.

Marvel palm-based engine oil is MARVEL MYSTERY OIL (MMO) ? Hmm I thought it was quite famous on BITOG... Did saw it was old @ ACE Hardware, PJ but reluctant to give it a try.

Owh! sorry my bad .... blink.gif MARVEL oil you mentioned was from MARVEL ZONE (M) SDN BHD (MARVEL ENERGY OIL, MARVEL ENGINE OIL MG-1, PALM OIL BASED DIESEL, PALM OIL BASED FUEL ADDITIVE, PALM OIL BASED LUBRICANT).

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Posted 01 May 2009 - 07:23 PM

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Show me the UOA test result for cooking palm oil which has been used in the engine (with no additional additive added, i.e., just buy the cooking oil from supermarket and then pour into the engine), then we can comment. Otherwise just bullshit....


Let us take a comment made by supposedly graduan ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari Universiti Arkansas:
Bekas jurutera sebuah syarikat Jepun serta graduan dalam bidang ekonomi dan kejuruteraan dari Universiti Arkansas , Amerika Syarikat itu berkata: "Minyak kelapa sawit merupakan minyak paling sentitik, tetapi kita tidak tahu mengenainya. "

Which characteris is the palm oil is the most synthetic?

let me make the comparison:
Fully synthetic TOTAL QUARTZ 9000 SM 5W40 flash point is 230C
100% mineral oil flashpoint is 302C
100% palm oil flashpoint is 304C

TOTAL QUARTZ viscosity at 40C is 87.28mm2/sec
100% mineral oil is 503.4mm2/sec
100% palm oil is 42.6mm2/sec

TOTAL QUARTZ viscosity at 100C is 14.22mm2/sec
100% mineral oil is 32.51mm2/sec
100% palm oil is 8.65mm2/sec

TOTAL Quartz viscosity index is 169
100% mineral oil is 96.15
100% palm oil is 187

Stupid punya BEKAS Jurutera.

By the way my sister is a PhD graduate in Chemistry and she is a researcher at MPOB (Malaysian Palm Oil Board) and the result so far has not supported the usage of 100% palm oil (i.e., by going to the supermarket, buy packets of cooking oil made of palm oil and pour into you car engine), you need other additive to be effective. She has published papers in established journals on biodiesel fuel.
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Posted 03 May 2009 - 07:56 PM

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Using pure cooking oil as engine oil. To those who wanted to use, I can only say, good luck to you. You are a confirmed nut case but if it makes you happy, go ahead. Just leave the rest of us alone.

I prefers to use my head than follow the crowd. After all, it is my money and not theirs.

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 02:18 AM

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i second that...good luck to those who's going to try tongue.gif may the force be with u.