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> Toyota Avanza 1.5 engine NOT from Vios?
lance
post Jan 26 2007, 08:49 AM
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youfa77,

Please clarify "hell" ... not sure what you heard/know/experience with the
1.3 - also, was it M/T or A/T?

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post Jan 26 2007, 07:39 PM
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i heard from my friend... His Avanza 1.3 (Dun know is Auto or Manual)...

Apart from Underpower, gearbox is noisy.....
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post Jan 29 2007, 08:26 AM
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youfa77,

I see - it's through hearsay
I heard loads of that almost every week as well.

Here's my own observations:
I've driven the 1.3 A/T and find that it does exhibit clutch slippage which
translate to a feeling of under power. Even using the "overdrive" button
and dropping to D3 can't give a "push" like dropping gear on an M/T
gearbox. I guess its the nature of the A/T gearbox to be like this.

Gearbox, differential (shaft and all) are noisy, after 80 kph - when the
engine RPM hits > 3,000. Noise at highway speed is noticeably higher than
ordinary sedan cars due to the low gear ratios (better acceleration, suck
at high speed).

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2005 Toyota Avanza 1.3 M/T
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post Jan 29 2007, 11:15 PM
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Cant imagine that Toyota is producing such a MPV at that time. That was a
real hot model when launching.

How abt 1.5 one?
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lance
post Jan 30 2007, 10:10 AM
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youfa77,

Other than it looks really nice (exterior, interior and accessories
upgrades!), can't comment on the 1.5 engine ... never got the chance to
drive it. But logically, since it's still A/T, will probably have the same
"underpower" feeling as the 1.3 (read above)

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post Jan 30 2007, 06:24 PM
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Thanks Lance, for sharing your info with me...
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post Mar 8 2007, 10:07 AM
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Hi everybody,

I'm resurrecting this thread becoz of the article in today's theSun
(Thursday March 8 2007), Page 36, "Smoother ride" - YS Khong

It's about the 1.5l Avanza A/T

I'm looking to clarify/discuss some statements made:

1. Para.6 - "...1.5-litre VVTi engine, adapted from the Vios engine,"
lance>
Please remember that, in Malaysia, I don't believe this is accurate.
(somebody please correct me if I'm wrong - this is really annoying!)
Avanza 1.5 engine code 3SZ-VE
Vios engine code 1NZ-FE

2. Para.8 - "...15-inch wheels that translate to a larger rolling
circumference."
lance>
2005 1.3l M/T model is 185/70R14.
New 2006 1.5l A/T model is 185/65R15.
It's only a difference of 1.1% - not much, really.

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post Mar 8 2007, 10:57 AM
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Hi Lance,

I believe that the statement "Adapted from VIOS engine" can be true to a
certain degree, but what is clear is they are two different engines. The
VIOS engine is aluminium while the AVANZA is cast iron (cheaper maybe?).

As for the 15" wheels, the original 14" has a circumference of 24.2
inches while the 15" now is 24.5 inches. I wouldn't label 0.3 inches
(0.762cm) as "larger rolling circumference" but that is the journalist
world. If they don't write these two, they have nothing to write :)
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:01 AM
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Happened to found this.Big Smile

Toyota Avanza - Packaged Just Right
Wednesday, January 05, 2005 By YS Khong
Toyota Avanza – Just Right Package

After missing out on the launch of the Toyota Avanza a few weeks ago, we
were finally invited to take one out for a test drive. We took it to Penang
on a working holiday, and clocked close to 900 kilometres of mixed driving.

Timing plays an important part in any success story, and the Toyota Avanza
could not have come at a better time. The market is hungry for a small
utility vehicle at a reasonable price. The Unser is getting out of reach of
the average buyer, or perhaps there may be some who are intimidated by its
size. This is also a time when fuel prices have just gone up and a car that
goes easy on fuel appeals.

It also comes in a size that is just right; neither too small, nor too big.
In Penang, we squeezed two carloads of people, eight in all, into the
Avanza with no problem at all. The 1.3 litre DOHC fuel injected engine,
with variable valve timing, generates 89ps, equivalent to the 1.6 litre
engines of one decade ago, so there is plenty of power to spare. The unit
we tested was an automatic, and the 4-speed gearbox featured well selected
gear ratios that had the right balance between speed and power. In top
gear, it was 30 kph per 1000 rpm, and driven at the highway legal speed of
110 kph, the engine is easing along at just under 3700 rpm, a little high
compared to a normal car, but with plenty of reserve for quick spurts when
required. It will hit 150 kph if you want it to, at 5000 rpm, and will run
the whole day at this speed with no problem, except for some heavier fuel
consumption. We covered 430 kilometres on RM55.00 of fuel, at speeds
between 110 to 130 kph. That works out to be 12.8 sen per kilometre, and we
were loaded up with at least 400 kg of people and stuff. We found the
Avanza to be extremely responsive to throttle, and could actually out-drag
some larger capacity cars, the makes of which I shall decline to name.

In terms of room, the Avanza is hard to beat. As said earlier, it seats
eight although it is rated a seven seater, and those who require more space
can fold down or completely remove (some spanner work needed) the rear
seats. It is a small vehicle, being 4070mm long (which is shorter than most
cars), 1630mm wide, and tall with 1690mm height; but it is the two-box
design that makes it very spacious inside.

In the handling department, the Avanza is a stable vehicle on the move,
except that it is subject to a little sideways movement in crosswinds or
when a large truck or bus passes by. Around corners, it is quite well
behaved, and it will see you through even the most treacherous of bends as
long as you remember to respect the fact that it rides higher than an
ordinary car. The front Macpherson struts keep the ride firm, while the
stabilizer bar keeps roll to a minimum. The rear uses a four-link
arrangement with coil springs and a panhard rod to keep the rear axle from
sideways movement. This arrangement is a well-proven one, having seen
service in many of the earlier Corolla and Corona models.

Brakes are a disc/drum combination between front and back, and they work
well even though there is no ABS. Our automatic unit came with 185/70 R14
tyres mounted on 5J alloy rims as standard. Airbags are noticeably not
fitted, but I suppose cost considerations had a lot to do with that.

In terms of looks, the Avanza is great from the front, but the rear view
leaves something to be desired. However, remember that as a ‘do everything;
vehicle, function has to take precedence over form. The ride height is
excellent, according the driver and front passenger a commanding view of
the surroundings.

In a nutshell, we all agreed that the Avanza is an excellent package if you
want a good compromise between a family car and a utility vehicle. For the
family that can only afford something in the RM60k rangew direcIHappened to found this.Big Smile

Toyota Avanza - Packaged Just Right
Wednesday, January 05, 2005 By YS Khong
Toyota Avanza – Just Right Package

After missing out on the launch of the Toyota Avanza a fe
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:34 AM
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At least YS didn`t say something stupid like

"The new 2006 Avanza 1.3 now HAS VVTi" - Sherman Dez (NST)

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How about the Vios engine is derived from a Daihatsu engine?

Reference from below:

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posted on 18-Jan-07 0:21

Well, in China, Vios is using 2SZ-VE (1.3) and 3SZ-VE (1.5), whereby Vios
outside China (eg Thai, Msia etc), Vios is using 1NZ-FE (1.5).

The 3SZ-VE is also used in Daihatsu Bego, Daihatsu Xenia (Toyota Avanza)
and Daihatsu Material (Toyota Bb). And surprisingly, the 1NZ-FE, beside
used in Vios, it is also used in JDM Toyota Corolla and many others Toyota
1500cc model.

I believe the 3SZ-VE is by Daihatsu and 1NZ-FE is by Toyota. I have not
seen any 1NZ-FE being used in any Daihatsu model.

China Vios spec:

URL: http://www.ftms.com.cn/vios/specs.php
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