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SYM GTS 200 Experience (sepakat Eleganers)


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#1441
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:44 PM

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fuah... 17k ...sad.gif

Top up a bit I can have 2units vts200, grey for myself and black for my wife... lolz

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 05:05 PM

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Skipped lunch today to test ride the ER6N. My first time on a clutch bike, was a little worried I wouldn't know how to ride it but found out its alot easier than I thought. Anyway the bike is just WOW!! The amount of torque was unbelievable, and I wasn't even gunning the throttle. Then I thought about the high price of the gts250i and had a light bulb moment. Months and months of mulling over the pros and cons of big bike vs scooter just came to a point. I HAD to get the ER6. I guess I have Mforce to thank for helping me come to this decision. Thanks, Mforce.

I still would like a scooter someday but probably not for the next 2-3 years (hopefully the gts300i will be here by then).

Anyway guys, I'm glad to have been a part of this effort and am proud to have kept the pledge. Will still be dropping in every now and then. Wanna wish all of you Selamat Hari Raya and safe riding always.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 07:07 PM

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Hi Guys,

I went to Mforce today to check the SYMPHONY 250i at same time doing my VTS 200 maintenance. smile_big.gif
The bike chassis is totally similar to GTS/VTS 200 i thot is gonna be bigger!! Heheheheh.

Here are some new features for SYMPHONY 250i:



1. Twin Head Lamp/Head Lamp Cover
2. Back Rest
3. EFI Engine
4. Button Seat Release (at left handle)
5. Safety Switch (under your seat compartment beside the lamp)
6. 13" Rear Tire/Rim
7. New Braking System ( if you use REAR brake the FRONT brake will brake at the SAME TIME, but NOT when you use for
FRONT brake only FRONT brake will perform)
8. Fog Light (the switch is next to the Emergency Switch)
9. New Meter Panel 180km / Blue light (if im not mistaken)
10. Painted Side Mirror
11. Symphony 250i Sticker/ SYM Logo (@ side cover at foot platform)
12. Bigger Exhaust (Black Color with rubber heat protection)
13. Bigger Swing Arm
14. Bigger Profit for MFORCE!!!!





Cheers!!
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 08:50 PM

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pls compare the price between majesty,silverwing & burgman.I'll accept if the price is Rm16K but i think RM13K is way too low.maybe most of you can buy piaggio x9 200cc.now only selling for Rm 8K+.It's very cheap but pls consider the parts availability & price.went to SYM segambut,heard that they are already several orders for the symphony but they told me that this buyers are from different catogary.If the bike is reliable,of course they will be lots of buyer.just compare between goldwing & voyager.for me gts 200 is already good for me as the pick up is good & the max. speed can goes up to 135km/h...as i can play around with lots of DIY accessories.... smile_approve.gif pls don get annoy with my comment.It's just 2 cents comment as i use to travel oversea & find that we malaysian always go for pricing & not quality....that why there are lots of china parts here( chong kok fuh).

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:18 PM

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QUOTE (macques @ Sep 8 2009, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
pls compare the price between majesty,silverwing & burgman.I'll accept if the price is Rm16K but i think RM13K is way too low.maybe most of you can buy piaggio x9 200cc.now only selling for Rm 8K+.It's very cheap but pls consider the parts availability & price.went to SYM segambut,heard that they are already several orders for the symphony but they told me that this buyers are from different catogary.If the bike is reliable,of course they will be lots of buyer.just compare between goldwing & voyager.for me gts 200 is already good for me as the pick up is good & the max. speed can goes up to 135km/h...as i can play around with lots of DIY accessories.... smile_approve.gif pls don get annoy with my comment.It's just 2 cents comment as i use to travel oversea & find that we malaysian always go for pricing & not quality....that why there are lots of china parts here( chong kok fuh).


Fyi the retail price is RM16.8K NOT including insurance,road tax,registration fee and no plate. Estimation about 17k++

Frankly, ill accept that price if they using bigger chassis instead reusing the GTS/VTS chasis and cover set!

Thanks.


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Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:47 PM

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this is only what SYM taiwan have.look at the website of sym taiwan.They even have the 300cc using the same chasis as symphony.sometimes we have look at the technology.not every bike are using halogen & led bulbs,even japanese bike.just compare to 150cc japanese bike which is almost the same price as gts.sym have ceramic coating on it's piston so that it can't cope up with high temperature of the engine.Fot this type of technology,we can't complain anymore with the pricing.It's cheap because it's made in taiwan.If a japanese bike using this technology,i think the price of a gts 200 will be around 14k.I used to own a kawasaki 150cc & 250cc & i repair the bike by my own.Do you know that kawasaki parts are expensive,even the rear brake shoe can cost around rm 160.The air filter can cost around Rm42. right now i repair,service & add accessories by myself.when i remove the part from the bike,there are even some branded stuff. eg. the front bulb is using philips from germany & they are using total engine & gear oil.

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Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:27 PM

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QUOTE (macques @ Sep 8 2009, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this is only what SYM taiwan have.look at the website of sym taiwan.They even have the 300cc using the same chasis as symphony.sometimes we have look at the technology.not every bike are using halogen & led bulbs,even japanese bike.just compare to 150cc japanese bike which is almost the same price as gts.sym have ceramic coating on it's piston so that it can't cope up with high temperature of the engine.Fot this type of technology,we can't complain anymore with the pricing.It's cheap because it's made in taiwan.If a japanese bike using this technology,i think the price of a gts 200 will be around 14k.I used to own a kawasaki 150cc & 250cc & i repair the bike by my own.Do you know that kawasaki parts are expensive,even the rear brake shoe can cost around rm 160.The air filter can cost around Rm42. right now i repair,service & add accessories by myself.when i remove the part from the bike,there are even some branded stuff. eg. the front bulb is using philips from germany & they are using total engine & gear oil.



Bro, of course laa bro...it was a joke!!! We check the website all the time. My point is, if they still using the same chassis and some of cover set why still expensive???? Just because of the TECHNOLOGY the price can be double up!!?? Doesnt make sense at all.

For example, a Hline Satria Neo 1.6M cost about RM52k++ and the Satria Neo CPS cost about RM60K++ both using the same chassis but different TECHNOLOGY. PROTON dont sell it at RM102K (double price) just because of new TECHNOLOGY!! Since you are working in Automotive Industry im sure you should know better bout this.

Same goes to Nouvo S and Nouvo LC...Different TECHNOLOGY but the price is not double!!!

Do you know GTS/VTS 200 spare parts is damn expensive?? A set of front LED lamp will cost you about RM400++ and the air filter is RM32.90???? The front bulb will cost you RM50. If Mforce is very smart, they will lower down the Symphony 250i price and focus more on the accessories. More rider rides the SYM bike the more volume of sales they can achieved.


p/s: If you do a modification by yourself the warranty is void even for the alarm or install the fog light by your own. Unless your bike is >10,000km or >1year which ever come first
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 11:57 PM

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Cara Malaysian berbahasa atau ... budi_bahasa.png.jpg


Cara Malaysian berbahasa Inggeris agak terlalu mudah, pendek, tepat, dsb. tetapi efektif. Dia bandingkan dengan cara orang Briton berbahasa seperti dalam contoh-contoh yang diberi melalui e-mel berikut:

WHEN GIVING A CUSTOMER BAD NEWS
Britons: I'm sorry, Sir, but we don't seem to have the sweater you want in your size, but if you give me a moment, I can call the other outlets for you.
Malaysians: No Stock.

RETURNING A CALL
Britons: Hello, this is John Smith. Did anyone page for me a few moments ago
Malaysians: Hello, who page?

ASKING SOMEONE TO MAKE WAY
Britons: Excuse me, I'd like to get by. Would you please make way?
Malaysians: S-kew me

WHEN SOMEONE OFFERS TO PAY
Britons: Hey, put your wallet away, this drink is on me.
Malaysians: No-need, lah.

WHEN ASKING FOR PERMISSION
Britons: Excuse me, but do you think it would be possible for me to enter
through this door?
Malaysians: (pointing the door) Can ah?

WHEN ENTERTAINING
Britons: Please make yourself right at home.
Malaysians: Don't be shy, lah!

WHEN DOUBTING SOMEONE
Britons: I don't recall you giving me the money.
Malaysians: Where got?

WHEN DECLINING AN OFFER
Britons: I'd prefer not to do that, if you don't mind.
Malaysians: Don't want la ...

IN DISAGREEING ON A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
Britons: Err. Tom, I have to stop you there. I understand where you're coming from, but I really have to disagree with what you said about the issue.
Malaysians: You mad, ah?

WHEN ASKING SOMEONE TO LOWER THEIR VOICE.
Britons: Excuse me, but could you please ! lower your voice, I'm trying to concentrate over here.
Malaysians: Shut up lah!

WHEN ASKING SOMEONE IF HE/SHE KNOWS YOU.
Britons: Excuse me, but I noticed you staring at me for some time. Do I know you?
Malaysians: See what, see what?

WHEN ASSESSING A TIGHT SITUATION.
Britons: We seem to be in a bit of a predicament at the moment.
Malaysians: Die-lah!!

WHEN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED
Britons: Will someone tell me what has just happened?
Malaysians: Wat happen Why like that ...?

WHEN SOME ONE DID SOMETHING WRONG
Britons: This isn't the way to do it here let me show you,
Malaysians: like that also don't know how to do!!!!

WHEN ONE IS ANGRY
Britons: Would you mind not disturbing me
Malaysians: Celaka u


Uhh lalaaaaaaa....

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 12:15 AM

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QUOTE (grinchest @ Sep 8 2009, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cara Malaysian berbahasa atau ... budi_bahasa.png.jpg


Cara Malaysian berbahasa Inggeris agak terlalu mudah, pendek, tepat, dsb. tetapi efektif. Dia bandingkan dengan cara orang Briton berbahasa seperti dalam contoh-contoh yang diberi melalui e-mel berikut:

WHEN GIVING A CUSTOMER BAD NEWS
Britons: I'm sorry, Sir, but we don't seem to have the sweater you want in your size, but if you give me a moment, I can call the other outlets for you.
Malaysians: No Stock.

RETURNING A CALL
Britons: Hello, this is John Smith. Did anyone page for me a few moments ago
Malaysians: Hello, who page?

ASKING SOMEONE TO MAKE WAY
Britons: Excuse me, I'd like to get by. Would you please make way?
Malaysians: S-kew me

WHEN SOMEONE OFFERS TO PAY
Britons: Hey, put your wallet away, this drink is on me.
Malaysians: No-need, lah.

WHEN ASKING FOR PERMISSION
Britons: Excuse me, but do you think it would be possible for me to enter
through this door?
Malaysians: (pointing the door) Can ah?

WHEN ENTERTAINING
Britons: Please make yourself right at home.
Malaysians: Don't be shy, lah!

WHEN DOUBTING SOMEONE
Britons: I don't recall you giving me the money.
Malaysians: Where got?

WHEN DECLINING AN OFFER
Britons: I'd prefer not to do that, if you don't mind.
Malaysians: Don't want la ...

IN DISAGREEING ON A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION
Britons: Err. Tom, I have to stop you there. I understand where you're coming from, but I really have to disagree with what you said about the issue.
Malaysians: You mad, ah?

WHEN ASKING SOMEONE TO LOWER THEIR VOICE.
Britons: Excuse me, but could you please ! lower your voice, I'm trying to concentrate over here.
Malaysians: Shut up lah!

WHEN ASKING SOMEONE IF HE/SHE KNOWS YOU.
Britons: Excuse me, but I noticed you staring at me for some time. Do I know you?
Malaysians: See what, see what?

WHEN ASSESSING A TIGHT SITUATION.
Britons: We seem to be in a bit of a predicament at the moment.
Malaysians: Die-lah!!

WHEN TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED
Britons: Will someone tell me what has just happened?
Malaysians: Wat happen Why like that ...?

WHEN SOME ONE DID SOMETHING WRONG
Britons: This isn't the way to do it here let me show you,
Malaysians: like that also don't know how to do!!!!

WHEN ONE IS ANGRY
Britons: Would you mind not disturbing me
Malaysians: Celaka u


This really made my day! LMAO!!

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 12:22 AM

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QUOTE (klimal @ Sep 8 2009, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's see how the market respond to the pricing.
Even though it will not affect the resale value, one has to top up a whole lot more to upgrade to the Symphony.
This defeats the gain from the better resale value.

Most new scooter owners will want to start at a lower capacity and initial outlay.
Then upgrade later as they gain more confidence.
With such a big difference, one would think many times before doing so.

At that price, I would consider a proper bike, rather than a scooter as the riding dynamics are anytime better.
Also the comparo prices are not fair. The new Symphony cost 78% more than the GTS200..
If the 1.5M cost 78% more than the 1.3M carburettor, then it would be priced at RM62,000 vs RM35,000.
Now which would one choose?


Thanks for summing up in so many words. A most astute observation. There's no clear pathway to an easy upgrade now. The doors are thrown wide open for anyone who would come in to capitalize on this opportunity. Any supplier/ manufacturer who can slot in a 250cc machine between 10 and 15k would have a captive market now & absorb the pent up demand left by u know who. Modenas are u listening??
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