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#101
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Posted 20 January 2009 - 08:57 AM

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QUOTE (gallicharm @ Jan 20 2009, 03:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HI Mubull...I drive my Cit Xantia as my daily ride...Thanks everyone for their feedback.. smile.gif

what tyres are you using now.... wink.gif

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 10:15 AM

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QUOTE (gallicharm @ Jan 20 2009, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
HI Mubull...I drive my Cit Xantia as my daily ride...Thanks everyone for their feedback.. smile.gif

Your signature states that you are on the Evasion now or do you have both.... wink.gif

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 11:03 PM

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how to we define a comfort tyre?
issit normally build with soft compound or soft sidewall?
so it can absorb some road uneveness and the car not so bumpy?

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:50 PM

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QUOTE (swinee @ Jan 22 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
how to we define a comfort tyre?
issit normally build with soft compound or soft sidewall?
so it can absorb some road uneveness and the car not so bumpy?


Soft compound is used in extreme performance tires...but for comfort tires...but softer sidewall contruction is always used for comfort tires.....there is a big difference between Comfort, Mileage and Performance, Ultra Performance tires

Take example Michelin.
Comfort - MXV8 - Soft sidewall construction, medium compound for the threads
Mileage - XM1 - Medium sidewall, harder compound
Performance - PP2 - Hard Sidewall, medium compound
UHP - PS2 - Very hard Sidewall, soft compound.

This also has an effect on the type of car or suspension setup...a lowered car will never get comfort even if it uses the MXV8, wherelse a Accord will not fully utilized the grip effect of the PS2 unless the suspension is modified. Age and wear and tear also plays a big part in tire comfort or performance. Most tires will perform well below 30K KM, after that, the rubber will harden.

The thread pattern on most so call comfort tires are also very fine and close together to avoid vibration and noise. But the wet performance wont be that good.




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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:12 PM

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QUOTE (azbro @ Jan 22 2009, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
..., wherelse a Accord will not fully utilized the grip effect of the PS2 unless the suspension is modified.
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azbro,

why have to modify its suspension ah? unsure.gif
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:13 PM

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QUOTE (azbro @ Jan 22 2009, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Soft compound is used in extreme performance tires...but for comfort tires...but softer sidewall contruction is always used for comfort tires.....there is a big difference between Comfort, Mileage and Performance, Ultra Performance tires
Take example Michelin.
Comfort - MXV8 - Soft sidewall construction, medium compound for the threads
Mileage - XM1 - Medium sidewall, harder compound
Performance - PP2 - Hard Sidewall, medium compound
UHP - PS2 - Very hard Sidewall, soft compound.

so generally, aside from the tread design, car suspension setup, tyres aspect ratio
could we conclude tat a soft sidewall is the most impt factor contribute to a more comfortable ride?

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:04 PM

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QUOTE (swinee @ Jan 22 2009, 02:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so generally, aside from the tread design, car suspension setup, tyres aspect ratio
could we conclude tat a soft sidewall is the most impt factor contribute to a more comfortable ride?

Yes, soft sidewall comes first......

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:22 PM

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QUOTE (whoopee @ Jan 22 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
azbro,

why have to modify its suspension ah? unsure.gif

Not necessary, if your suspension are still in good condition.....

rdgs,

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 05:27 PM

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Stock suspensions probably too soft for spirited driving, so, even with UHP tyres, there'll still be too much body roll and weight transfer to the outside tyres, therefore not fully utilising the UHPs' potential?

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 05:40 PM

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QUOTE (Esky @ Jan 22 2009, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stock suspensions probably too soft for spirited driving, so, even with UHP tyres, there'll still be too much body roll and weight transfer to the outside tyres, therefore not fully utilising the UHPs' potential?

Depends on what car also?

At times I find that the tyres potential (depends on what tyres again?) are not up to my car's potential...ha! ha!

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